Tribal Seduction JP Micek Video Response

LMAO re: ur "quote" above. Ur too much Rick!

Thanks for the dedicated post. I am humbled. Really all I wanted to do was express my comments in flow w everyone else over at http://rickbutts.com/268/ross-goldberg-worst-advice/

It just gets me so fired up (in case u can't tell ) when honest debate on opinion & ideas is shut down by finger-pointing or application of politically correct "labels."

You've been saying things here that a lot of people think but just don't say. (Take http://rickbutts.com/240/unsubscribe-stompernet/ for example.) Kudos to you for doing so.

As I always say — common sense if the rarest commodity, and ignorance our most self-destructive extravagance.

You're helping people discover more of the first, and cut back on the second. Welcome to the club!

BTW - Re video commenting: sadly the only pluign I know of is from Seesmic. http://wiki.seesmic.com/Wp-plugin

great video reply post. Coach Deb and JP are one of the "gurus" i respect… and After a year of seminar hopping and listening to all these "pitch" fests, i decided to flush it! i saw what really goes on and i dont want to be a part of that or do biz like that. Now i need to start over… what a wasted year. Thanks Rick for keeping it real! Subscribed.

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Hey JP - GREAT video!!

I, too, learned from the early Rudl - and many offline superstars as well. I know exactly where you're coming from, and LOVE the fact that you are not one of those who feels the need to defend bad advice, from even those you consider friends.

I dislike when people in this industry feel the need to come to the defense of someone based on a vested interest - whether it's a personal relationship or business - whether the individual is right or wrong. ESPECIALLY those who are considered "names". Their public endorsements can go a long way to creating confusion about the validity of the issue at hand versus the character of the person in question.

Sometimes the two are mutually exclusive - other times not so much.

Rick is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise (oftentimes) incestuous community. I see it all the time; someone who is considered an expert of some kind is gushed over as if diamonds have fallen from his/her lips no matter what has been said. Any dissent from "lesser mortals" is immediately squashed as being "jealousy".

Just because someone has achieved some portion of public success in some area of internet marketing does not mean they are experts on everything related to internet marketing.

And just because there are some who choose to consciously shun any type of internet celebrity and are not recognized in the mainstream does NOT mean that some of us don't know what we're talking about… and been doing it successfully for years.

Thanks again, JP - I appreciate you and the time you took to create such a supportive, insightful reply for Rick.

Cheers!
Lisa Preston

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EXCELLENT response by JP (the guy in the video, not me ) I loved hearing that the late great Cory Rudl was a proponent of a 3/1 content to marketig ratio. That's a great rule of thumb and I've never considered using an actual ratio!

Rick, thanks for keepin' it real, my brother. You're a beacon in murky waters.

…jp

Enthusiastic response! Bravo! I cater to female entrepreneurs and they especially are sick of the pitch, pitch, pitch!

I recently wrote a pseudo rant about the top 3 things IMers should stop doing to reach more women, and boy, have I gotten some nasty emails. The men complaining (yes, no women reacted this way) didn't have the guts to post their comments openly (except one) but they sure gave me an earful via email.

Thanks for turning on the lights! It's high time that internet marketers quit the low-rent tactics and I appreciate your point of view. Civil discourse is how we learn.

Together, we are stronger.
Vicki Flaugher, the original SmartWoman

Nice video response JP

So, an interesting follow-up question would be…based on what criteria do you select someone to model? Who's got a nice action list to help the newbies out.

I'll take a shot at starting the list******

1) well respected in the industry (can't go on this alone I think we all know there have been and are gurus with 'sketchy' practices)

2) someone who's marketing angle fits your core being the most (really? that simple?)

3) someone who's gotten the results you want

4) someone that shares a background/belief, etc in their marketing story and business

5) _____________________________

…Keep it rolling I heard a few questions clicking in the minds of newbies while watching your video JP…

tag

-S

PS: Hey JP Moses — nice chatting with you the other day.

Thanks Sean. Good starter list. Here are some comments and added suggestions.

On #1 - "well respected in the industry" is tricky. It depends who is giving the respect. If it's other marketers only, then take some extra time to follow the person and see what they actually do vs. what they/others say.

With the transparency we have in today's New Media marketplace, it's fairly easy to see if the person walks their talk or not.

#2 & #3 are infinitely more important. There are many factors to look at in these two areas. But one of the easiest places to start is with what type of lifestyle the person you're considering as a model lives. Are your goals in alignment with that person?

For example, I have several friends who make lots of money speaking all around the world. They're on the road 1/2 to 2/3 of the year or more. Deb and I had as our goal to enjoy life in Hawaii, travel only when we wanted, and have businesses that give us a blend of active and passive cash flow.

So early on in 1999 and 2000, as I was in the process of selling my previous businesses in NJ, I chose to model people who ran businesses that delivered a similar type of lifestyle. I did the same thing when I started investing in real estate in 94'.

Of course, common beliefs and morals can really help with alignment and choice of models too.

And keep in mind — you can learn quite a bit from others who are NOT what you'd like to be. They will give clear examples of what you don't want to do, and the consequences of those actions. By looking at things from what some may call a more "negative" view, that opposite frame of mind will help point you in the right direction too.

Hope these ideas help. They're just a start.

JP Awesome commments. It's so easy for us to get caught up in platitudes and forget to measure reality.

We both have experience in real business - and how many things can go wrong.

The "downside" on most web businesses is so tiny because the costs are so low.

We forget though, that the huge cost is TIME and emotional energy.

Prudence and common sense are what I look to Tribal Seduction website and your commentary for.

I seriously need to stop carrying so much water for you all - it's starting to look like I'm a paid whore.

Rick Butts