UPDATE to this post – July 1 – 2008.
Ross Goldberg has gotten under my saddle like a spiny burr – and pissed off my horse a couple times, too. But, when I started to take a look at his actual stuff (this video content aside) I found out the little tyke knew a LOT about getting traffic.
He’s created a killer app software that outperforms Traffic Geyser but doesn’t require that hefty monthly investment. Check it out here…
I don’t know Ross Goldberg at all. But, he posted what has to be the worst Internet marketing advice I’ve ever heard in my life in reference to my Stompernet post.
This video should explain both my position on why this is the worst advice ever – and probably cement my reputation and drop it in the river forever for not playing nice.
Didn’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings, but doggone it – some common sense needs to get some oxygen.
What about you?
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The original post that started this latest rhubarb.
Ross just put a video response to my video on his site, you can see it at http://www.ross-goldberg.com/ross-goldberg-responds-to-rick-butts-and-the-worst-internet-marketing-advice-ever/
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Hey Ken –
For brevity’s sake I’ll try to chunk this down like this:
1. Remaining silent would have only applied to me not responding to something I felt needed a response – especially for my own readers to whom I feel obligated to provide the best info I can. I implicate no one else, not you, or anyone, in responding to something that may not even be on your radar screen.
2. I felt I was debating an idea – the idea of culling through multiple email offer lists as a method of becoming a better marketer – which I think is a bad model – for reasons I’ve described.
3. I’m now accused (by two well know big league Internet marketers only) of personally attacking Ross. How is debating this idea a personal attack?
HE wrote an article that basically said my perspective was wrong – he linked to my article. I create a video response to try to make sure the time line and context are clear – and it’s a personal attack?
How is what I said a personal attack? I clearly said I do not know him – and am not in a positon to judge anything but the idea he presented?
4. Every single other product, service, writer, etc. in the marketplace who sells ideas comes under review and critique. Just because a guy speaks at events, or we’ve mailed for him, are his ideas now gospel and “off limits?”
90% of the readers here (and on Twitter) agree with my position on this – and I’m confused by the idea that I’m tearing down a man, as I”ve stated above.
Sincerely,
Rick
From someone who doesn’t really follow any of the online marketers I appreciate the debate.
So thanks for the debate — it has opened up a line of communication that wouldn’t have been there otherwise.
Regards – Vanessa, iThinkMedia.com
Frank Sousa @ 9:58 am
“Should we all unsubscribe from Rick’s newsletter? Ummmmm not me. I think I’ll stay on.”
LOL _ thanks Frank – here’s my answer for everyone…
Dear Friends,
If I start to send you an email offer every day – and multiple emails about the latest launch – and “free videos” that name squeeze you into OTO’s and relentless upsells, downsells, and offers – then yes, by all means, you should unsubscribe from me.
For darn tootin’ if you put these kinds of emails in a folder and read them weekly – you’ll only be learning to manipulate people and be tempted to duplicate the same methods – and into the same market – the worn out – exhausted – tiny niche of Internet marketers who sell to Internet marketers about how to make money selling Internet marketing information to Internet marketers!
IMHBAO
In my humble but accurate opinion…
Rick
Damn you had me fooled Rick, there was me thinking you were trying to compete with me.
On this one I am going to take the middle ground – you can pick up a fair amount from being on email lists, just the same as blog subscriptions.
@Nathan – some of us actually try to deliver original content on a daily basis. The art is when you get authority links to your posts, even though you have disclosed affiliate links.
I don’t always succeed, sometimes the unique educational message doesn’t slap people in the face hard enough.
If anyone is inclined to go the “dofollow” route, Lucia’s Linky Love is the one I most frequently recommend as it is lower maintenance than predecessors.
http://money.bigbucksblogger.com/lucias-linky-love-a-dofollow-plugin-to-foil-human-comment-spammers/
Above all, I am glad to see more internet marketers linking to each other whether positive or negative in opinion.
That is the blogosphere rather than using a blog as just a landing page for your email list, or as a product launchpad.
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I’ve been watching this thread with interest, as I find Rick to be really great at pointing right to the heart of the matter, with humour.
I also notice that rather than sticking to the topic – Rick’s statement that the advice given by a specific marketer was bad advice – he instead was “frowned at” for “attacking” someone.
That is utterly ridiculous.
If Rick said something in a post I thought was wrong, I’d point to it and say loudly, “Rick just said this, and it’s wrong! Here’s why…”
I’m sure he’d think it was very cute that I disagreed and move on. I seriously doubt a bunch of associates of his would feel the need to defend his character.
The fact of the matter is that Rick’s OP was completely valid – and yes, poked a bit of fun, and added some humour. I’d expect no less than an engaging post from Rick Butts, would you?
Rick, you’re aces.
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Hi Rick,
I have been following this “feud” (okay…discussion) through twitter and the blogs.
I get way too many emails now, but I do look at many of them and skim them for relevancy. None found — into the trash bin they go.
Some I save as part of my swipe file that I feel I can benefit from, but in general most of them are all rehashed hype to buy something.
So I guess I am kind of in the middle.
I am enjoying all the comments on this and I am learning from them how people are feeling about this issue.
I hope to use the information I have gleaned about this issue to better my own marketing efforts and not “blow out” too many people on my list.
Thanks,
Chuck
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Rick, I was wondering the same thing. I didn’t read it as a personal attack on anyone. I read it as a point of view on an idea.
I agree with Ross that doing niche research is easy
when you signup with other people’s newsletters.
I’m also very grateful of all I’m learning from the emails
from many marketing gurus, plus you can always unsubscribe
if you want.
And if you feel you are getting too much emails, just use the labels in gmail
Lasse
Spain
Interesting debate…
I have heard others talk about subscribing to many lists. I have one email address where 95% of the marketers I subscribe to go. I log in once per month and scan the subject lines.
I do that to get ideas on writing subject lines that get people to open. Largely because I am not much of a writer
I figure if it was compelling enough to get me to open, then it’s something for me to stick in a swipe file.
But that’s where it ends for me. I didn’t subscribe for the content. The other 5% that go to my real inbox are the ones I read for the content.
There’s value in just about everything if you look for it. Even if all you learn is how not to do something.
If people waste time with information overload, then they need to reevaluate what they are doing and why. I was there. I was new once, following 37 different people with less than two pennies to rub together.
But, like a junkie, I hit bottom, then changed my own approach and found what works for me.
So, while Ross’s initial advice may no be great for many people, I don’t think it’s the worst advice ever. I have certainly gotten much worse advice (for me) than that… many MANY times.
Nice post/debate.
Mike
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Hi Rick,
A week ago I’d never heard of either you or Ross. I just joined Ross’s list and he sent a note about this thread. So I came to check it out. His response was gentlemanly, as you mentioned.
You make some good points. However, you clearly make an attack– if not personal, certainly mean-spirited — when in the first 45 seconds of your video you tear down the man’s website banner, graphics and name of his business because it doesn’t appeal to you.
Your video rant seems defensive and angry against someone who looks like is a much smaller player than you but is moving forward and taking action.
I agree you should comment when others criticize your ideas. And the exchange of ideas and active public debate is definitely a good thing. But the way in which you got the ball rolling and the responses of some of the earliest posters here… that doesn’t do discourse any good calling people names and debasing others’ ideas because you don’t agree with them.
It’s difficult, isn’t it, not to take critical comments that disagree with us defensively and personally.
Others have said it in this thread before– take what works and leave the rest. Taking action is the key to success. Sometimes you succeed and sometimes you fail… but you gotta do something. I personally subscribe to those whose voices seem like they have something positive to say and provide information to help others improve.
I just signed up for Ken’s and Frank’s lists.
Felicia
Came across your blog from a post on Ross Goldberg’s blog. I don’t have any loyalty to him or his business. But I don’t get it. There must be hundreds of thousands of “professionals” in Internet Marketing that give advice, good and bad. So why the scathing comments and personal attack? You don’t think it’s a good idea; he does. So what? The way you go on and on, I initially thought he must be advising or implementing something underhanded. Or maybe it’s just to get things heated up here on your blog (or his) to get more publicity?
Hi Rick,
Wow, I’ve certainly heard much worse advice than that. I believe that there are different strategies one might use depending on your level of expertise. i feel that Ross might have added a bit better context, but that can most likely be said of just about any article on a blog. There could always be one more thing you might say or add.
I love the flourish with which Ross replied and the fact that he kept himself out of a cat fight by the way he opted to respond to character bashing.
Anyone in the public “eye” is likely to take some arrows, however in future you might consider a constructive approach to be more beneficial. if you do not agree, you can point out the problems without resorting to sarcasm and denegration.
You are truly hilarious when your humor is entertaining and not caustic. I loved your memorable performance at Carl Galetti’s event last year. It sticks with me to this day. How sad that you have chosen this particular path with regards to Ross Goldberg. Why not make fun of the strategy but not the person?
Neither of you is completely “right” or “wrong” in my opinion. There’s wiggle room on both sides.
I give Ross Goldberg points for an elegant deflect. makes me think he might know some martial arts.
I know it is giving both of you traffic…
And perhaps this is all a staged fight to up your traffic and get more attention? I don’t know, but it is something to ponder.
ROnda Del Boccio
The Story Lady
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So many comments to agree to, but I will keep it short.
First, Ken’s point of personal attack/tear down is not to say that you did so intentionally, but that your method has unintended consequences. The problem I see is more from a SEO perspective. By titling your post Ross Goldberg gives worst advice… and by having your URL /ross-goldberg-worst-advice you are dooming Ross personally when people search for Ross’ name, and all they see is that URL and that headline in the search results.
(Don’t believe me? Google ross goldberg advice and your post is already #1)
You are effectively branding Ross as a bad advice giver for ALL of his advice – when you are intending to just address this one issue.
I hope you will change the blog title to something different, even though you probably won’t change the URL since it’s already being used by other blogs. I invite you to use a cPanel redirect though, and change the post slug anyway to worst-advice-i-ever-heard or something like that.
I’ve known Ross for quite a while, and he sometimes comes up with some off the wall things that I don’t agree with. But he also knows what he’s talking about when it comes to traffic, and for the people who love the internet marketing, list building part of our industry, reading and studying what works and doesn’t is appropriate.
It’s not just emulation here, but exposure.
Here are some keys to remember…
Filters are essential to this strategy to work and not overwhelm.
You may discover some new knowledge provider sooner than most if you are subscribed to the bigger pile
You can go back and see what emails triggered a top 10 finish in an affiliate contest (usually one written personally with a compelling story and curious headline)
There’s nothing inherently wrong with squeeze pages, OTOs, and great offers that provide value. If it’s crap, refund, unsubscribe, etc. OTOs can be overused, sure. But procrastination is a worse evil online than scarcity tactics.
Enjoying the conversation and hope to see a change in the blog title/URL soon,
Bob Jenkins
p.s. If no one subscribed to new lists to learn more, or only stuck to what they already know, then no new marketer would have a chance of getting their message out, and new ideas would be very difficult to discover.
Result: NOT subscribing to more than a few lists makes the business even harder to break into and our industry to grow with fresh, helpful ideas.
I can see both sides here. Although I appreciate learning from others, I do tend to only listen and pay attention to the ones that resonate with my personal values. I’m more of the 4-hr workweek type and go to aggregate sites for the latest industry news rather than dozens of newsletters. IM Newswatch is a good compromise time wise.
I cater to female entrepreneurs and the biggest objection expressed to me is how aggressively worded everything is. One email provoked me so that I had to express my irritation http://tinyurl.com/5eyvv2 and the responses I’ve received via email from women has been overwhelming, cheering me on. I am open to learning, but I still feel my personal voice and representing the genre I serve has to be the deciding factor on which marketers’ techniques I implement. It’s not just about what works to make money, but what works to maintain my community of fans so they will continue to buy from me for years to come. IMHO.
Thanks for the great insights. Together, we are stronger.
Vicki Flaugher, the original SmartWoman
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Wow – I just approved 6 comments (I only disapprove spam) and the points made about me “bashing” and “comment baiting” or creating a “publicity stunt” or “critisize the idea not the person” all indicate that…
None of you read my comments to comments on this thread.
But, a special thanks to Bob Jenkins who pointed out an unintended consequence in the URL thing – although I can’t imagine that very many people search on Ross Goldberg advice – like ever.
Rick
Yobeeone:
Yes, there are areas of information where there is no competition. For example, success principles, general internet marketing tactics, etc. But there are definitely areas where having the info in too many hands makes the tactics much less effective. There are a LOT of those little niches in Internet Marketing in general, and SEO specifically. After all, there can only be 10 sites in the first page of results for a given search at Google.
So I never hang out at public Forums, nor do I read much in the way of emailed newsletters (with a few exceptions… like Rick!). Most of the stuff in forums is not only rehashed, but it’s rehashed INCORRECT information. And 95% of newsletters are just repackaged Old News. So I read just a few top marketer’s emails; and a few up-and-comers that I know have the straight stuff.
Hey Rick… perhaps you should compile a list of people that you think are worth reading…
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Very interesting stuff. Someone just showed me the video response to this & I honestly thought Ross was going to blow up and do one of those “Alien” video’s he did or something like that.
Anywhoo, wow…I’m really impressed how Ross handled this based on the video’s I’ve seen in the past.
I’ll continue following the convo…
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Nathan:
LOL Competition either makes or breaks a person. If there’s loads of competition and only 10 places on Google, a person is forced to put out their absolute best. Without competition we become slack.
It’s rather like having one service station in town. They can jack up their prices, give you crappy service and do a half *bleep* job and it doesn’t matter – they’re all you’ve got so tough.
But what happens when a new station moves in across the street? The first station begins working their butts off to improve and give it all they have. The more stations the come to town the more everyone fights to be the best! Competition is good! :]
Besides, only 1% of the people will ever actually use the info anyway. The zillion empty newsletters that go out are proof. LOL
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Good idea for research and reference! And also to compare a product with its competitors. Sometimes the “best” isn’t really what you need…there are always better products around by the time you get your hand on a “best product”.
Well, well, well…
Isn’t this just a FABULOUS conversation. I just love it.
Rick – You better work! I don’t see anything wrong with what you did. In addition, it didn’t seem like a personal attack to me until others started pointing things out. That’s when I thought to myself “Ohhh, yeah. He’s giving it to him hard.”
Then, I read Ken’s comment. I just love the way Ken looks at things. I understand where he’s coming from. Indeed we should not personally attack. However, I didn’t get that from Rick.
In fact, I understand where most of the comments are coming from. And it seems that you do too, Rick.
On the contrary, I like playing devil’s advocate and so I will. I see this on forums all the time. If somebody says anything remotely against (or, shall we say, remotely not in agreement with) a well known guru, people come out of the wood in defense of him (99.9% of the time always a him); whether they are wrong or not.
Give me a break with this “he’s a nice guy” mantra. Save it for someone that wants to hear it. As i always say, some folks eat McDonald’s and some like Burger King. There is no possible way to satisfy the ears of everyone that’s listening. There will always be one person who doesn’t appreciate and/or like what you’ve.
With that said: I wish that Rick had talked about me
I gave some very similar advice on my blog recently
8 Tips to Not Make Money Online
And the feedback was great, to say the least.
Keep it coming Rick. Be yourself. Speak your mind.
Yobeeone:
Well, this is coming from 9 years of Internet Marketing experience… When there’s a new method for getting easy rankings quickly, and that method “gets out”; it’s going to be ineffective in no time. Why, Rick Butts himself broke Blogger to the point of SEO uselessness a couple years back!
A current example would be Michelle MacPhearson’s 30 Minute Backlinks.
A number of us SEO-types have been using this method for years with very nice success. Now that she’s publicized it, I don’t expect it to be effective for long… as too many people will abuse it and get it shut down.
That’s the ebb and flow of SEO.
And in my experience, the best information BY FAR comes from behind closed doors. Yes, Eban Pagan has called for the IM world to “move the free line”, and guys like Mike Filsaime and the Boys at Stompernet have done just that. But it always comes with a punchline of “…and to get my very BEST stuff, click here and pay $800 a month”.
To continue this line of thinking, I’d better post to MY OWN blog, not Rick’s! Thanks for the inspiration.
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Keep up the good work Rick.
I do not think Ross could be as stupid as he makes out…perhaps this is some sort of “linkbait” ploy
Cheers
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Rick, some of the comments up above really got me fired up. This video comment is the result.
Following costs nothing and equals little.
Leading costs dearly, but returns exponentially.
Decide if you’re Trapped on a Path, or Leading the Pack?
http://snipurl.com/follower
I doubt it’s a common search term, but you are also on page 3 for ross goldberg at this point.
I appreciate you reading and changing the title at least. Hope you will consider the post slug as well.
Keep up the healthy, and progressively positive debate!
Bob
I feel like a late-comer to the party, but thanks, Rick for the great post you wrote almost a month ago about information overload. A lot of people are obviously disposing advice here, and I would like to, instead of using the word “you”, use the word “I”, and share the problems I’ve had.
I personally have always struggled with information overload. My first year online was actually just reading content from newsletters from internet marketers. I knew a lot about marketing, but I was so busy learning about marketing that I dind’t have time to market (or even start).
Not only that, I even bought products I didn’t need, as a direct result of the great copywriting and marketing skills of masters. I read the book SEOBook before I even had a website. I bought Product Launch Formula before I even had a product.
Now, I’m incredibly successful in a variety of niches. So am I still subscribed to these email lists? Absolutely. What is the difference between the time I was paralyzed by reading and information gathering and now? One thing and one thing only: I don’t buy any more products and I don’t read the emails that are sent to the one address I gave up to the SPAM Gods a long time ago.
In the amount of time it was taking me to read blogs, emails, products, listen to teleconferences, and everything else, I can now start up and profitably run an entire website.
So when do I go to the emails? When I’m taking action, I use them as a reference. Some of those emails were written by million dollar copywriters. I use it as my swipe file, the same way that I use their sales letters as swipe files for my sales letters.
For instance, when I wanted to take one of my retail ecommerce sites and get some HubPages traffic to it, I had no idea where to start (I’d used it for other things before, but its a whole new ballgame with a retail site). So I did a gmail search for HubPages, and voila! There it was… Stompernet. Funny, they created a “free report” on it. I downloaded it, and read the stuff about Hubpages and I was on my merry way. I could have just as easily gone to blogs I trust that are authorities on Web 2.0 and did searches there.
What I have found is that once you have the fundamentals down, the little itty bitty details (which is what most gurus show) can be figured out by going back and searching for them. It saves me time… time that can be better used for me to create a new product for one of my niches.
Just my personal thoughts.
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Subscribing to every email list as you said would lead to complete confusion. Subscribing to those who really do ‘captivate’ you and you truely believe in and truely benefit from is the way to go.
It can be a pretty deep relationship lol, on a one way level and you hope to be come successful and hve the opportunity to make it a two way level relationship. Business relationship people… get the mind out of the gutter!
The best part is having the opportunity to meet those marketers that gave you that success, and then telling them that they helped them get their.
If you want the opportunity to say that to a certain marketer… then you know you want to be on that persons list and want to learn from them.
Nathan J. Hockley
Rick, I’m so proud of you man. You’re not afraid of sticking your neck out and challenging the self-declared big guys (or, in some cases, short guys. lol).
I really respect everyone’s freedom of choice to do whatever the heck they like with their own marketing pursuits… BUT, each and every one of us doing business on the internet *must* do our own due diligence. You simply cannot just emulate Mr. Big Shot on the stage bragging about how many gazillions he’s made and, oh, by the way just do as he did and you too can be a squillionaire. Hello? It does NOT work that way. Why? Because everyone has their own *unique* blend of motivations, beliefs, skillsets, attitudes, desires, goals, etc.
Doesn’t Ross et al know email marketing is shifting? It’s now become humanly *impossible* to stay on top of the avalanche of emails that flood our inboxes daily… and that’s even after unsubbing from a ton of lists. (Tim Ferriss recently blogged about email bankruptcy). This is the beauty of social media/web 2.0 – it’s a more organic and transparent form of communication, with community building to boot.
And therein lies part of the challenge: many of the big dudes want to stick with the ivory tower hammer-your-list approach and aren’t willing to put in the time, effort, heart and availability that the conversation-marketing world often takes.
Of course, email (”dinomail” as a bud of mine calls it) will always be around. But we can be a lot more picky about what comes in and what gets nixed.
Thanks to your now-famous unsubscribe post, Rick, I got off a ton of lists the other week. I just recently left one well-known copywriter’s list after a couple years; I like the guy a lot but he suddenly started getting real in-yer-face with his writing style. I’ve started using the same trusted word-of-mouth recommendation approach that I use for choosing purchases, for example, to choose whose list to be on. It’s all about whose style you resonate with, who you admire/aspire to.
Keep these fab posts coming!!
Mari Smith
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Hi Rick,
It’s a double-edged sword; I subscribe to marketers to study their marketing style and sales funnels, but I’m not on that many lists anymore. It’s hard enough to follow the marketers that I have purchased products from. And even then, I delete most of emails.
It’s good to keep an eye on the competition, but this can be done more effectively today through RSS feeds. Better advice would be to subscribe to blogs in your niche, or if you’re interested in other marketers, to subscribe to their RSS feeds. There are many effective ways of handling this today for free, for example Google Reader.
Having so many emails in one’s inbox seems kind of old school and is a big time waster, and what do we have that is more valuable than time?
I am uncomfortable when marketers lash out on others; it reinforces the “law of dwindling supplies” and a consciousness of lack. Don’t we have more important things to do with our time and energy?
/Angela
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Well freakin said.
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Subscribing to every email list – yes – can be confusing. I’ve learned to open up emails with more convincing useful subjects. The rest don’t even get opened. Occasionally I clean-up by unsubscribing those least read.
“Why, Rick Butts himself broke Blogger to the point of SEO uselessness a couple years back!” – Nathan
I just wanted to ask if you honestly think blogger blogs are useless in terms of SEO??? Have you searched Google for ANY search terms??? Blogger blogs still rank very high and are very useful. I’ve used them myself with great success.
Just look up the term “make money online” (without the quotes), and you’ll see a blogger blog as the #1 spot (with another one in the top ten).
Blogger Guy -
I agree with Nathan.
Blogger blogs are a useful item when learning to use the tools of the internet, but a self-hosted blog like WordPress is a much better choice.
Control of your site (especially) for a business site is extremely important. If you create a Blogger blog, you run the risk of it being removed or deleted, and you have far less control over the customization and other aspects of the site. Just the fact that your site could disappear on a whim should be enough of a reason NOT to use Blogger.
That’s not to say it’s not a good tool for learning! You may also manage to place it into a number one position on Google for a time… but there is always the chance that it could disappear without warning. Why take the risk?
If you can build a #1 ranked site on Blogger, then wouldn’t it be prudent to simply use WordPress on your own host? This way you maintain your control.
Funny enough, I was compelled to post on my blog about this very thing in response to a tutorial that this same marketer put out not long ago. You can view it here:
http://www.lisapreston.info/2008/05/04/affiliate-blogging-basics/
Hope that’s helpful!
Cheers -
Lisa
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I use blogger, wordpress.com etc as external blogs – I link to my main blog from them.
If one of the external blogs get deleted, it doesn’t matter.
I get fine traffic from them as well as they have good PRs.
Lisa,
I agree that if you don’t host your own blog that there’s always a risk of losing it. However, what 99% of people I’ve talked to on this subject don’t know for some reason is that you can self-host your own blogger blogs just like you can wordpress blogs.
With wordpress, you can also get it hosted by wordpress itself too.
Just wanted to clarify that.
Market research = bad?
Modeling success = bad?
I’m guessing those are not things you’re recommending against.
So I’m going to assume that maybe the point is that people need to compartmentalize this process and develop the ability to remain focused in a sh_tstorm of noise, flashing lights, etc…
This can be solved simply with
1) free email account (gmail + gmail manager in FF works great)
2) scheduled times/dates in which to study these emails sent by the gurus or whoever
3) begin with the end in mind…what exactly are you trying to study while looking at these other emails?
a) trend marketing?
b) best practices of ‘gurus’ for date/time of sending the email, length of email, type of narration/writing, etc…
c) building a swipe file of decent subjects & pitches.
d) fill in the blank _______ with reason to study what’s working…
Interesting post though and definitely an interesting topic.
-S
Really? You can download “blogger”, upload it to your own server and host it yourself? If that’s the case, you’re right – I’m surprised it’s not common knowledge.
If you can post it, I’d love to see a link to those instructions.
On the other hand, if you are talking about simply pointing a domain at it…
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(That last comment was for Blogger Guy, sorry about that.)
Susanne F -
I guess that’s the risk you run, if your okay with blogs getting deleted. I personally value my time – and can’t justify the hours spent creating authority sites/blogs and simply “cross my fingers” hoping that they don’t get removed.
It takes the same amount of time to create and update a blog on your own server. And reduce the risk that you lose all the content you add over months and years.
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Hi Lisa,
Log in to your blogger account
–> Settings –> Publish –> Custom Domain
and follow instructions from there.
Cheers
Susanne
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Ops! Lisa, I believe I just told you how to point…
… sorry my mistake.
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Easiest way on earth to have a full-blown awesome Wordpress blog is to get a cheap $9.95 account at HostGator (my fave personal choice for hosting.
Login and click the Fantastico button – Wordpress and Create and boom!
You are in teh big wide world of self-hosted blogging.
I HEART Wordpress – anything you wanna do just type it into Google and grab the open source stuff.
Then get Jack Humphrey’s FREE Authority Black Book and get rockin’ traffic!
Go on – get ya some!
Rick Butts
Lisa: my remote blogs are not authority blogs, I spent 15 minutes per week by posting snippets, I use them to generate traffic to my authority site only.
The black book is great, I also like Jeff Johnson’s Getting-Traffic-Technology at [url]http://www.undergroundtraininglab.com/main.php[/url]
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I too HEART the wordpress software itself–it was the restrictions to java/flash, reduced commercialized focus (limited affiliate links, no adsense, etc.)and the threat of sudden deletion that moved me away from the free option. I am much happier with the self-hosting (godaddy has a single click install option now too). My next blogs will definitely be self-hosted from the start.
RE: Gurus. I want to listen to leaders who respect their audience. I like marketers who value their time rather than work incessantly to get their results. I enjoy people who share openly and see the world as abundant with enough room for all of us. I like them to have techniques that can be applied effectively and profitably without being shady. I really really adore the ones that don’t encourage digital graffitti (SEO crap like selling software that auto writes to people’s blog log digitally to place their ads and links there, for example. YUCK.)I totally love the ones that see the internet as a long term busines relationship rather than a wam, bam, hank you mamam proposition. They are out there and if they are’t, we become them. The next generation of better approach innovators are sitting right here.
Together, we are stronger.
Vicki Flaugher, the original SmartWoman
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